Love and let love - Tuppy Owens in conversation with Tom O'Carroll

[Tuppy Owens, sex therapist and writer:] I went on a bed with a Hungarian aged twenty-one when I was about eleven, but the trouble was he didn't seem to be able to find anything to do with me. So although I would have liked to try it, I never in fact succeeded in getting into a developed sexual contact when I was a child. Arguably, if I had done, it might all have turned out disastrously and I might have grown up with a completely different attitude to sex. I can't deny that possibility, but it strikes me as unlikely. [...]

[Owens:] A little girl of seven and her parents were guests at my flat once. The girl came into the bedroom occupied by myself and my boyfriend one night and asked if she could see us 'doing it' together. Well, I was not going to oblige, for I was worried that it might get back to her parents and of what they might think. So she lay down and asked if she could borrow a pencil. I gave her one and she started to demonstrate on herself with it. "Look," she said, "this is what you two should be doing." [...]

[Owens:] [I]n my experience, pleasure-seeking can go hand-in-hand with wanting to give pleasure to others too. [O'Carroll:] And that can apply in terms of erotic pleasure-giving as between adults and children? [Owens:] I certainly don't see why not.

source: 'Love and let love - Tuppy Owens in conversation with Tom O'Carroll'; From the book 'The Betrayal of Youth - Radical Perspectives on Childhood Sexuality, Intergenerational Sex, and the Social Oppression of Children and Young People'; Edited by Warren Middleton; CL Publications, London; 1986