'There is no ground in reason or logic or justice for eighteen'

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[Lord (Jeffrey) Archer, speaking on homosexual age of consent:] You're taking it down to 14 and that would really worry me. I'd be firmer on eighteen and leave it there. [...]

[Roy Jenkins, former Member of Parliament and former President of the European Commission:] There is no ground in reason or logic or justice for eighteen.

source: Lord Archer in discussion with Roy Jenkins; 'Question time'; www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr5f3gECclo; 1994